November 8, 2005

Enemies !! Treasure of Baghdad's Diary

My days in Iraq are always busy. However, yesterday was very quiet and normal. Nothing serious happened to make me very busy. I seized the opportunity to spend the whole time surfing the net. I flipped through blogs and websites, and chatted with some friends about politics and other issues. G., my friend, told me Baghdad Burning has posted a new post. I was very interested to hurry up and read it as she hadn't posted anything since the referendum. I was shocked when I read her entry. She posted something about the POWs [Prisoners of War] in the 8-year Iraq-Iran war. She was accurate in every single word she described about how Iraqis suffered in that period.

Accusing Abdul Aziz Hakim and his late brother and what they did in "torturing the Iraqi POWs", she moved to talk about her fears of a possible domination of the Kurds and Shiites to power in Iraq. Unfortunately, she didn't leave a space for people to comment. Instead, she preferred people email her. I took parts of her entry and commented on them in the email I sent her. Following are the parts I chose and the comments I left on them. I am sure some people would think by that email, I am supporting the Shiites. I want everybody knows that I am not supporting anyone. I am an objective and secular person whose main job is to convey the truth to the whole world.

Hi Riverbend,

I read ur last post and wished there was a place to leave comments in. there are few things I'd like to share discussing with, if u don't mind.

- "It showed what I later learned was an Iraqi POW in Iran. I watched as Iranian guards tied each arm of the helpless man to a different vehicle. I was young, but even I knew what was going to happen the next moment. I wanted to run away or close my eyes- but I couldn't move. I was rooted to the spot, almost as if I too had been chained there. A moment later, the cars began driving off in opposite directions- and the man was in agony as his arm was torn off at the socket. "

I felt the same thing exactly when I watched it back in the eighties. It was one of the most horrible things I've seen yet. I felt very sad when the government removed the statue in the Palestine St. that represented this crime.


- " Every Iraqi who had a missing relative from that war, saw them in the agonized face of that POW who lost his arm. SCIRI head Abdul Aziz Al Hakim and his dead brother Mohammed Baqir Al Hakim were both well-known interrogators and torturers of Iraqi POWs in Iran."

First of all, I am a secular Iraqi but one thing, do you have any evidence that Abdul Aziz Hakim and his militia did interrogate the POWs?
Maybe I am speaking like this because I am a reporter which has to be neutral and depends on facts. You are talking about this as a fact without explaining where did u get this fact from? When ? to make the reader convinced of it.


- "The referendum results were so disappointing and there have been so many stories of fraud and shady dealings (especially in Mosul), that there's already talk of boycotting the December elections. This was the Puppets' shining chance to show that there is that modicum of democracy they claim the Iraqi people are enjoying under occupation- that chance was terribly botched up. "

As a reporter, I've talked to many people, including Sunnis in Adhamiya, Mosul, and Anbar who said that they were very happy that the constitution has passed. The reason as they said is that they are fed up. They want peace back, they want stability they are deprived from for two years.

- "Americans constantly tell me, "What do you think will happen if we pull out of Iraq- those same radicals you fear will take over." The reality is that most Iraqis don't like fundamentalists and only want stability- most Iraqis wouldn't stand for an Iran-influenced Iraq."

Ok, what about the Wahabi and Salafi radicals who are causing much pain in Iraq by considering every single policeman, soldier, or government employee as an infidel??!! Isn't there a small space at least for them to mention?! I am not saying the Shiite radicals are innocent but I am saying what about the Sunni Wahabis and Salafis?

- "Iraq has been the land of dreams for everyone except Iraqis- the Persian dream of a Shia controlled Islamic state modeled upon Iran and inclusive of the holy shrines in Najaf, the pan-Arab nationalist dream of a united Arab region with Iraq acting as its protective eastern border, the American dream of controlling the region by installing permanent bases and a Puppet government in one of its wealthiest countries, the Kurdish dream of an independent Kurdish state financed by the oil wealth in Kirkuk… "

Also here, you haven't mention the dream of the radical Salafis whose dream is to turn Iraq into another Afghanistan.

Riverbend,
I totally understand what you are going through now because it's the same feeling of most of the Iraqis, but that doesn't mean to be biased. In this post, you are against Iran, Shiites, and Kurds only. You totally forget to mention that Iraq has enemies who are turning the country into a hell.

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I had to be indulged in a long discussion with my friend about this post and how River bend considered Kurds and Shiites, who are Iraqis, as enemies while she totally forgot to mention that there are foreign fighters come from Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Kuwait, Sudan and some other countries to do operations against all Iraqis under the name of "Jihad".

By that time, my friends and colleagues J, O, and N were in the office. We all talked about different subjects, including movies and DVDs. J told us she watched a "great" movie and she wanted us to watch it as well. She gave it to O and today N will watch it. "Do you have a comedy DVD?" I asked J. "I need to laugh and smile," I said.
Jumping from her chair, she said, "I know what to bring for you." The Simpsons Collection was one of the DVDs she brought. I liked the idea of watching a funny cartoon. When I returned back home, I had a shower, had dinner and then watched the Simpsons with my favorite Iraqi tea in my hand. That was the first time I ever watched a cartoon at night. I even haven't watched cartoons since I graduated from school 2 1/5 years ago.


14 Comments:

  1. I think your comments were right on. Part of the problem in Iraq, perhaps even much of it, is that so much of what fuels people's passions are rumors and subjective feelings. We suspect everyone, and that is exactly where the enemies of a peaceful Iraq want us to be. If we trust no one, Iraq will never be a unified country. That is the whole point of unrest. Facts are facts. You're a great reporter! Truth is the only thing that will bring Iraq peace. And that makes you part of the solution.

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  2. Baghdad Treasure,

    Over at Iraqi Bloggers Central we've been talking about Riverbend's latest entry for a couple days (if you want, you can check the comments page for November 6). I admit up front that I am often critical of Riverbend because, as you yourself suggest, she often leaves out half the picture. As you journalist, you know that's unacceptable. But also, like you, I support Riverbend 100% for giving us her ideas, no matter what they are or whether I generally agree or disagree with what she's saying.

    Here's what I wrote on my comments page:

    I did read Riverbend's latest. Listen, only Riverbend could argue that Iran and the US are now working TOGETHER to steal the power that the Sunni elites like her and ex-Ba'athists alone should wield.

    Riverbend writes:

    The agony of the long war with Iran is what makes the current situation in Iraq so difficult to bear- especially this last year. The occupation has ceased to be American. It is American in face, and militarily, but in essence it has metamorphosed slowly but surely into an Iranian one.

    The elephant in the room, of course, is that Riverbend FAILS to mention SADDAM HUSSEIN, the one who not only led the Iraqis into its 8-year war with Iran but also its short-lived occupation of Kuwait.

    I'm currently reading Anthony Shadid's very fine "Night Draws Near." EVERYONE blames the Iran-Iraq War on Saddam Hussein, civilians AND soldiers.

    Leave it to Riverbend to not even MENTION Saddam Hussein in the middle of all her talk of POWs.

    She also conveniently forgets to talk about how the Iraqi Army paraded their Iranian POWs through the streets.

    All of that is business as usual with Riverbend. Is she intellectually dishonest? What do you think? Maybe she doesn't know anything about how Saddam started the Iran-Iraq War. Maybe she never saw those Iranian POWs in the Iraqi streets, right?

    I did find something unusual in her entry, however. She forget to mention anything about electricity.

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    Yes, I know. I'm a little snarky on the comments page.

    I know you're reading Shadid's "Night Draws Near" too. I'm on page 250 and it's a fascinating read. One thing I didn't know was the complexity and long history of the competition between the Khoie/Sistani side and Al-Sadr.

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  3. I"m afraid I don't know a lot about the history yet myself so I can't really comment on that but one thing I would like to say in Riverbend's defense, although you are quite right that she often leaves out half the story, blogs are supposed to be individuals sharing their personal opinions...not journalists reporting the news (while I think the blogs that are "news" focused and balanced are great) what Riverbend does with her blog gives us one distinct perspective and there is nothing wrong with that. I don't think she needs to "balance" or "backup" things she says in what is essentially a diary made public.
    This discussion that arises over differing opinions is great though it gives everyone a variety of perspectives and a more clear understanding of what is going on and the fact that not all Iraqis share one mind on any topic. Keep up the good work, your blogs are great.
    Maple Leaf.

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  4. Hello my Friend,

    Reading your post was very enjoyable.
    Thanks to Jeff, I found your blog!

    The Iran-Iraq war hell. It's true that Saddam struck first but Iran was no innocent. It was equally ready to strike. There was no love lost between the Shiite Mullahs and Saddam's Iraqi Baathists.
    I am no expert but my partner knows a lot on this, since he did his theisis on the Iran-Iraq war. Regarding Rivernend 's take, Colin, discuss with Jeff what was the situation was back then at IBC .
    Perhaps you will find it interesting.

    A Tres Bientot.
    Stay very safe!

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  6. baghdad Trreasure,
    i hereby attached an email i sent to riverbend. i think we both agree that she was very extreme in her last posting.
    thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
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    River Bend,
    I tried hard to find a way to post you a comment, but failed.

    I’m a journalist. I mainly cover politics because i love it. Therefore, I found your posting of Nov. 6 is very interesting, though, I totally disagree with you.

    You are true in saying “SCIRI head Abdul Aziz Al Hakim and his dead brother Mohammed Baqir Al Hakim were both well-known interrogators and torturers of Iraqi POWs in Iran,” but its not necessarily their followers are Iraq-influenced. It is not necessarily they are not Iraqis. They are!

    Who said the results in the referendum were fraud? Who said “especially in Mosul”?

    I put a bet with an American friend that the constitution draft would be failed and taken down. I told him that the Sunnis would be able to urge two thirds of three provinces to vote against the draft. Given the high Sunni population in Mosul, Anbar, Tikrit, and Diyala. My friend said “there is no way the Sunnis can do it.” I insisted that the can, unless there is a powerful Sunni party to urge them to accept the draft.

    Do you know what happened few days before the referendum? The Iraqi Islamic Party [IIP] urged the Sunnis to vote in favor of the constitution. do you know how much support the IIP has in Mosul? I have a stringer in Mosul. The banners that read “No, No constitution” in Mosul disappeared in one night. People changed. I got reports from Mosul saying “We wanted to say yes anyway, but feared to say it loud. Now we will say it in the street because the IIP urged us.” so you know what that means> it means the Iraqis were free to choose!

    You say “Iraq has been the land of dreams for everyone except Iraqis.” I totally agree with you on this one. But don’t you thing the Shiites are Iraqis> don’t you think the Kurds are Iraqis? I wished you would put it in another way, like “personal interests instead of Iraqi ambitions,” or something like that. When I read this part, I thought you meant that the Iraqis got nothing of their dreams, only the Shiites and Kurds (which leaves the Christians and Sunnis to be the only Iraqis)

    You say “this coming December, Iraqis can go out and vote for Iran influenced clerics to knock us back a good four hundred years.” Hell NO. the Iraqis will go to vote, but they don’t have to vote for a specific group. They will be free to choose. And here you find the answer to you question of “What happened to the dream of a democratic Iraq?” It was in the process of becoming true. And it will be soon.

    I realize that Iraq will have to pass a decade of brutal assassinations, car bombs, plots, and neighboring intervenes. But I also know that this is just the beginning. We have to begin, so we can continue. I just want you to live with us this marvelous-hard time of Iraq’s history, but away from ethnic mentality. Regretfully, I noticed this in your blog. And we, the young Iraqis, need to be Iraqis only. This is the only way we can live together and accomplish the Iraqis’ ambitions and continue the civilization that we started a long time ago and never developed!

    PS: by the way, I am an Arab Sunni, but it doesn’t mean I cant defend the Shiites and Kurds.

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  7. Since Riverbend does not aloow comments I guess that we are using this space to make our points. I hope that she gets the message.

    I think that you guys are being too harsh. She has a right to state her opinion. Enough has been said of the Sunni terror tactics, so I guess she didn't want to bore us with the facts. Afterall it was an article around the Iran - Iraq angle.

    Moreover I think her views are valid. The Iraqi constitution has a better chance of outliving the Sunni insurgency. And when that happens, let's all hope that the Iraqi state is not hijacked by the Iranian style clerics.

    Hopefully, the Iraqi state would be separate from religion.

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  8. Can you guys explain to me how you can be nonsectarian just "iraqis" and yet still support a "constitution" that basically devides Iraq into three independant countries?

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  9. Trying to reason with Riverbend? Good luck.

    From day 1 she has been anti-Coalition and anything to do with them. If she can find a way to make them look bad she will. Even implying that the Coalition is working on the side of the Iranians. Yes, everyone has a right to their opinion. But if you're going to publish it, you should be willing to allow for dissenting opinions to be expressed. She does not.

    But I will say this for her, she has sparked a lot of debates elsewhere in the blogosphere.

    P.S. I like your writing style. I just discovered your blog through Mad Canuck and will have to go through and read your archives when I get the chance.

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  10. anonymous said:
    Can you guys explain to me how you can be nonsectarian just "iraqis" and yet still support a "constitution" that basically devides Iraq into three independant countries?

    It ain't so. It could end up that way, but it doesn't have to. By your reasoning the constitution divides Iraq in to EIGHTEEN independent countries. And if that is true then the US is divided into FIFTY different countries. The relationship between the provinces and the central government are yet to be worked out by the government that will be elected in a few weeks. But there is NO reason to believe that a for secession will ever exist. Iraq has been bound together by repression for a long time. I think we shall see that without the repression, even the Kurds will be ambivalent about leaving Iraq.

    I think some Iraqi elites have the same idea of solidly unified Arab Iraq that many Iraqi Kurds have of a unified Kurdistan. I think in time, both will be proved to be unnecessary, onerous, impractical ideals. Are the Sunni Arabs willing to live under a dictatorship in order to keep the Kurdish areas part of Iraq? Are the Kurds willing to live in a landlocked country with hostile nations on all sides in order to live in a country named Kurdistan?
    I doubt it.

    It is just like that silly poem about the letting the bird go to see if it returns to you. If people know that there won't be another Saddam, they will, over time, establish a strong central government because it meets their needs. If people know that people aren't trying to keep them in Iraq just to tell them how to live, the call for independent states will end.

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  11. Thank you for your blog and clearly you are quite polite perhaps overly so in your reluctance to be critical of Riverbend.

    You were too easy on her! As usual, she finds bogeymen everywhere except for her home team, the Saddamites who killed Iraqis at will, or for whatever whim of offense was taken by a Kurd, Shite, or whoever.

    She is a partisan and a propaganda artist for that team. You can't overlook the obvious suffering and torture under the oppressor and then suddenly find a conscience.

    She acts on their behalf and interests. It's that simple.

    Riverbend is a fascist. It's as plain as the day is long. I can assure you this girl cried no tears ever under Saddam's harsh dictatorship for any Iraqi.

    You can almost hear her saying, "they deserved it."
    Listen to the wind and on it rides the sounds of murder in the desert and in the jails of the souls who were tortured and killed. And to Riverbend there is nothing but silence. There is no past, there is no justice, there is only hopes for power reclaimed.

    And she would applaud the mass murder anew under the Baathists. Of this I have no doubt. No doubt whatsoever.

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  12. 24 Steps to Liberty "I just want you to live with us this marvelous-hard time of Iraq’s history, but away from ethnic mentality. Regretfully, I noticed this in your blog. And we, the young Iraqis, need to be Iraqis only."

    I am very happy to see an Iraqi say this.

    Iraqi first; Sunni, Kurd, Shiite, and whatever else second.

    Like in America, we are American first, whatever else second.

    Long live the Iraqi melting pot.

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  13. I totally agree with sloganmurugan. Riverbend is stating facts, she's not a facist nor is she leaving out half the story. if you don't like what she says, don't read it. And i would be anti-coalition from day one if someone invaded my country for a false reason like WMD. I admire Riverbend for stating the truth.

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  14. Hmmm,

    I will ignore the serious part of your post because like you, I am a bit weary of the serious for now.

    I wonder if you will enjoy the Simpsons. They are a cartoon and I guess there are some sight gags and some funny things, but a lot of the humor is the satire and farce created by american pop cultural and political references.

    Homer's neighbor being a prime example. The character is a caricature of a "Jesus Freak", also known as a white suburban fundamentalist (evangelist) christian. The humor being usually at the expense of the christian, but of course all the characters in the cartoon have humor at thier expense so everyone can feel offended 20% of the time and laugh at the others 80% of the time... one reason i think for the cartoons long popularity in America.

    Anyway, I would be interested in you writing a review of the Simpsons to see if, how, and why you enjoyed it.

    well, there is your assignment.

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